rap beef

Home > Hip Hop culture
Posted on 07.4.2004
rap beef
Add a comment
79 comment(s)

Rap Beefs
hip hop beef
diss rap

Feuds and rivalries have existed since the dawn of hip hop, which originated in the 1970s in New York City, United States. Originally, it came to block parties, where DJs would play records and isolate the percussion breaks for the dancing masses. Soon, MCs began speaking over the beats, usually simply exhorting the audience to continue dancing. Eventually, MCs began incorporating more varied and stylistic speech, and focused on introducing themselves, shouting out to friends in the audience, boasting about their own skills, and criticizing their rivals. While this was often done in good humor, the deaths of Tupac Shakur and the Notorious B.I.G. have meant that in today’s hip hop scene it is always feared that lyrical rivalries (known as "beefs" in hip hop slang) will develop into offstage feuds that become violent. Many observers have claimed that the media feeds on such rivalries for headlines and blows situations out of all proportion, a good example of which was the famous East Coast-West Coast rivalry of the 1990s.

One prominent example used as contrast by those who feel that the media manipulate and intensify hip hop rivalries was the 1980s hit "Roxanne" by U.T.F.O., which sparked several hundred "answer records" in response, some of which were quite vituperative. At the time, hip hop was nowhere as widespread as it would eventually become, and as such there was little media response to this record. The beef never made it onto the streets, and many observers felt that if something similar happened today, violence would surely result. However, the recent high-profile beef between Nas and Jay-Z was carried out without ever threatening to become violent.

"East Coast vs West Coast"

Probably the most famous rap feud of recent times is the early to mid-1990s rivalry between the East Coast’s Bad Boy Records and the West Coast’s Death Row Records, which was widely thought of and reported in the media as an East Coast vs West Coast dispute.

Hip hop had originated in New York, and the city remained the undisputed capital of hip hop until 1992, when Dr. Dre’s The Chronic became one of the biggest-selling hip hop albums in history, followed shortly by Snoop Doggy Dogg’s breakout album Doggystyle in 1993. Dre was on Death Row Records, headed by Suge Knight, and he soon built up a roster of stars like Warren G, Tupac Shakur, Tha Dogg Pound and Snoop Doggy Dogg that reigned on the charts, and Los Angeles begun to rival New York for its place as the center for mainstream hip hop. This had already, and somewhat inevitably, created a tension between certain industry heavyweights on both coast, each hungry for control of an increasingly lucrative market.

The biggest stars on the East Coast at this time were Puff Daddy’s Bad Boy Records crew, which was founded in 1993 and included Craig Mack, Mase and the Notorious B.I.G.. Bad Boy and Death Row were thrown into conflict with one another after Tupac Shakur was shot five times at a New York recording studio on November 30, 1994, and publically blamed his former close friend Notorious B.I.G and his Bad Boy Records cohorts. This feud escalated after Suge Knight mocked Puff Daddy at the Source Awards in August 1995, announcing to the assembly of artists and industry figures : "If you don’t want the owner of your label on your album or in your video or on your tour, come sign with Death Row." Despite Puff Daddy himself attempting to defuse the situation with a speech later in the evening, a later performance by Death Row’s Dr. Dre and Snoop Dogg was booed (to which Snoop famously responded "The East Coast ain’t got no love for Dr. Dre and Snoop Dogg ?").

The feud continued to escalate through numerous incidents. First, in September 1995, a close friend of Knight’s was gunned down at a birthday party thrown for producer Jermaine Dupri in Atlanta, Georgia, for which Knight publically blamed Bad Boy Records. Then, in December, while filming the video for the Dogg Pound’s New York, New York in Manhattan, Snoop Dogg’s trailer was shot at numerous times (though the trailer was in fact empty at the time). The video itself then become the source of further controversy on its release, featuring Death Row artists knocking over New York skyscrapers and landmarks, to which many East Coast artists and fans took offense.

There was also suspicion that the song itself was also targeted at Bad Boy Records and New York in general, though this is unlikely as the song is in fact a remake of a Grandmaster Flash song, features only generic, non-specific braggadocio/battle rhymes with nothing that could be interpreted as a specific attack on any specific individuals, and was written and recorded before the Bad Boy/Death Row feud got off the ground.

The feud moved onto wax in early 1996 when Tupac recorded Hit ’Em Up, in which he claimed to have had sex with the Notorious B.I.G’s wife Faith Evans and that "this ain’t no freestyle battle, y’all niggas getting killed". B.I.G. soon responded on Jay-Z’s track Brooklyn’s Finest (a move which also caused Jay-Z to become embroiled in the dispute). In March 1996, at the Soul Train Awards in Miami, there was a confrontation in the parking lot between the respective entourages of Bad Boy and Death Row in which guns were drawn. Although an armed staring contest was all this confrontation eventually amounted to, it was readily apparent to hip hop fans and artists that this rivalry was getting very out of hand, and going far beyond the peaceful if heated lyrical battles for superiority of the past.


On September 7, 1996 Tupac Shakur was shot several times in Las Vegas, dying a few days later. On March 9, 1997, the Notorious B.I.G. was shot and killed in California. Both murders remain unsolved, and numerous theories (some of them conspiracy theories) have sprung up. These include, most notoriously, that Shakur’s death was faked.

In 1997, several rappers, including Bizzy Bone, Doug E. Fresh and Snoop Dogg met at the request of Louis Farrakhan, leader of the Nation of Islam and pledged to forgive any slights that may be related to the rivalry and deaths of Shakur and Biggie.

Prior to his death, 2Pac had also come into separate disputes with several other East Coast rappers. Some friends of 2Pac had been apparently snubbed by the group Mobb Deep at one of their concerts, and when word of the incident reached a then-jailed 2Pac he sent out a message to Mobb Deep threatening violence. Mobb Deep immediately responded with the track Drop A Gem On ’Em which although its official release on the Hell On Earth album occurred after 2Pac’s Hit Em Up single which mocked Mobb Deep, it had been circulating on mixtapes and radio in New York long before. Nas also angered 2Pac by appearing to mock Tupac with a line Fake thug, no love, you get the slug, CB4 gusto your luck blow... in the track The Message, although Nas denied that this line was ever aimed at Pac.

Even Chino XL, a underground rapper from New Jersey with no eye on mainstream domination and no ties to Bad Boy Records, Nas or Mobb Deep, incurred 2Pac’s wrath on Hit Em Up by using him in a somewhat ambiguous simile "By this industry, I’m trying not to get fucked like 2Pac in jail" (ironically, the track to which this line belongs is a duet with proud West Coast representative Ras Kass). Chino soon responded with a freestyle on live radio, but it was either ignored or not heard by 2Pac. Because these rappers were all East Coast artists, and because they were often insulted in the same songs as in which 2Pac insulted Bad Boy Records, they are often believed to be part of a greater "East Coast vs West Coast" war driven by allegiance and territory. In fact, these disputes were for entirely separate reasons to the Bad Boy/Death Row dispute, and the ties between these artists and Bad Boy Records were either very limited or non-existent (Nas had in fact collaborated with Death Row’s Dr. Dre far more often than he had collaborated with Bad Boy Records artists). For these reasons, as well as the fact that many prominent artists from both coasts such as Redman, Busta Rhymes, E-40 and the Wu-Tang Clan were not involved in the dispute at all, it has become a widely held belief that the media’s labeling of the Death Row/Bad Boy feud as an East Coast vs West Coast battle driven purely by territory and allegiance is misleading and amounts to sensationalism.

Soon after the death of Shakur, Death Row Records folded as Afeni Shakur, Tupac’s mother, sued the label for allegedly cheating her son out of millions. Label head Suge Knight ended up in jail for unrelated probation violations. Lady of Rage and Nate Dogg have also filed suits against Death Row with similar allegations. Puff Daddy has also had multiple legal troubles, including a much-publicized case resulting from a shooting in a New York club ; he has been acquitted, though fellow rapper Shyne was not. Bad Boy Records had for the most part maintained its place at the top of the industry since the death of Notorious B.I.G, with artist Mase achieving success before his early retirement (and un-retirement) and Puff Daddy (now P Diddy) himself achieving considerable commercial success.

More recently, Bad Boy has struggled as a record label due to a lack of marketable talent and allegations that Puff is more concerned with his other ventures (i.e., Sean Jean clothing). After Suge Knight’s release from prison, Death Row Records was reborn as "Tha Row", signing many artists including acclaimed young rapper Crooked I, former Dogg Pound member Kurupt, and Lisa Left Eye Lopes. Unfortunately Lopes was killed in a car crash not long after signing to the label, and none of their other signings have achieved much in the way of commercial success.

Jay-Z vs Nas

The tension between Jay-Z and Nas dates back to 1996, when Nas supposedly refused to make a guest appearance on Jay-Z’s debut album Reasonable Doubt. However, the relationship between the two rappers remained peaceful (Jay-Z even giving a shoutout to Nas in his album liner notes), and the tension never became a full-blown rivalry until after the death of Notorious B.I.G. The position of "best rapper in New York" seemed eerily vacant after the death of Biggie, and fans were eager to see who would take over his role. In 1999, two years after his death, Jay-Z (a former friend and collaborator of B.I.G.) released a song titled "The City Is Mine" which seemed to many people to be making a claim to the empty throne. This attitude also seems to be evident in the fact that Jay-Z’s album In My Lifetime, Vol. 1 was originally titled Heir To The Throne, Vol. 1. Nas, the only rapper in New York at the time who had a reputation capable of rivalling Jay-Z but who had never received anywhere near the same amount of commercial success, apparently responded to Jay-Z on his track We Will Survive (also released in 1999, on his album I Am...), which appears to dismiss Jay-Z as a serious rival as well as attacking both his claims of superiority and his continual evoking of B.I.G’s legacy (the verse in question is in the form of a letter to the deceased rapper) :

It used to be fun, makin records to see your response
But, now competition is none, now that you’re gone
And these niggaz is wrong — usin your name in vain
And they claim to be New York’s king ? It ain’t about that

There was definite tension between the pair but no action for approximately a year, until in 2001 the beef exploded into the public eye as Jay-Z publically mocked Nas on stage at the Hot 97 radio station’s Summer Jam hip hop festival. Nas responded by delivering a calculated, personal attack on Jay-Z during a radio freestyle over Eric B. & Rakim’s "Paid In Full" beat :

And bring it back up top, remove the fake king of New York
You show off, I count off when you sample my voice
I rule you, before, you used to rap like the Fu-Schnikens
Nas designed your Blueprint, who you kidding ?
Is he H To The Izzo, M TO THE Izzo ?
For shizzle you phony, the rapping version of Sisqo
("sample my voice" refers to Jay-Z’s use of a Nas vocal sample in his song Dead Presidents)

Jay-Z responded with the track "Takeover" from his album The Blueprint, on which he attacked Nas for never matching the critical success of his debut Illmatic and questioned his authenticity as an artist. The song was very well-received by hip hop listeners, and many listeners and reviewers immediately dismissed Nas as a contender and feared for the end of his career. Therefore, it was a surprise to many when Nas responded with an equally well-received track titled "Ether" from his album Stillmatic, in which he mocked Jay-Z’s early years as an aspiring young rapper (in which he supposedly idolized Nas) and attacked him for being a misogynist and for exploiting the Notorious B.I.G’s legacy.

The positive response to Ether created enormous interest in the rivalry throughout the hip hop community, the music media and even mainstream news outlets. Jay-Z’s response was prompt, again attacking Nas’ authenticity and claiming to have slept with his ex-girlfriend in a radio freestyle that became known as "Super Ugly". However, this release was not as well received as the previous three tracks had been. The feud continued to simmer, and rumors of a live pay-per-view freestyle battle began to circulate but never came to fruition.

After the promoters of Hot 97’s Summer Jam festival refused to allow headlining Nas to hang an effigy of Jay-Z during his performance at 2002’s show, he appeared on Hot 97’s rival Power 105 and attacked both the music industry’s control over hip hop and the rappers who he saw as submitting to it, including Jay-Z, Nelly, N.O.R.E. and Jay-Z’s labelmate Cam’ron : "Y’all brothers gotta start rapping about something that’s real. [...] Rappers are slaves." After this incident both continued to go against one another on various tracks, the shots taken including Jay-Z criticizing Nas for his apparent hypocrisy on his The Blueprint² : The Gift & the Curse album’s title track, and Nas comparing himself and Jay-Z to the characters Tony Montana and Manolo respectively from the film Scarface, on his track "Last Real Nigga Alive" from his God’s Son album.

However, the feud died down somewhat towards the end of 2002, with no real winner decided (arguments go on to this day in the hip hop community about who came out on top overall, with the results of a Hot 97 radio phone-in revealing a close 52% - 48% split in favour of Nas), and both Nas & Jay-Z have since paid tribute to each other in interviews, likening the battle to a world title boxing match that pitched the best against the best, and pleased with the entertainment it provided fans. The rivalry also benefited both of their careers immensely, critically and commercially. Some observers even suspected that the beef was largely staged for the very purpose of increasing record sales.

Some Other Hip Hop rivalries :

50 cent vs Fat Joe
50 Cent vs The Game
50 Cent vs Jadakiss
Ja Rule vs Eminem and 50 Cent
Eminem vs Canibus
Eminem vs Benzino
Lil’ Kim vs Foxy Brown
Boogie Down Productions vs the Juice Crew
Eminem vs Everlast & Dilated Peoples
DMX vs Ja Rule
LL Cool J vs Canibus
Eminem vs Cage
Ice Cube vs Cypress Hill
MC Hammer vs LL Cool J
El-P (Company Flow) vs Sole (Anticon)
MC Lyte vs Antoinette

From Wikipedia

Share this article

Got a comment ?

No profanity, or inaproppriate remarks.



Who are you? (optional)

rap beef, by Real Gambit [2008-04-27 06:29:53]

da beef goin on now in da induztry iz bazed on publicity ztunt n 2 boozt rekord zalez[50 tryin 2 beef ev’rybody],unlyk in da early 2 mid 90z.

rap beef, by [2008-04-24 12:43:12]

east rappers that shit on all them u just named : Cassidy, stack bundles,papoose, j hood, jadakiss, styles p, murda mook, nas, jay-z.....Lil wayne, TI, rick ross, young jeezy, and luda is the south rappers that i like they are nasty but fuck them other ones they one hit wonders

rap beef, by tre [2008-04-15 17:25:03]

Mann i juss sat back and read yall lil thoughts and inputs bout these different rappers so i’ma put my thoughts on it....for the dumb fuck who said fuck da south me sayin fuck you and all dat dont mean shit so bring ya lame ass down here and say it ya might not make it back to wherever they produce yall lames at fuckboy....and to be clear, the south runs the rap game this day and age...the north had they time the west did and now its in da south hands down....money talks, you can have all the opinions you want niggas in the south get the most money off dis rap shit right now !! hands down !!the best rapper lyrically is lil wayne and tip is da best in da gangsta rap section although he has swayed from it a lil cause he got bread now but you see he still da realest cause what he says is what he has done...i’m from atl...him gettin caught aint nothin to glorify but it’s proof.... now 50 is juss the moneyman... not even a factor in the rap game, but you gotta respect him for it if you dont den you a hatta....to make a small list of great rappers out da south for yall dumb fucks who forgot : andre 3000,big boi,t.i,baby d,ludacris,jeezy,young dro, rick ross, trick daddy,lil wayne, boosie, and these are the rappers that run the 106 countdown these days so why hate ????

rap beef, by crunch [2008-03-07 23:57:20]

big up juelz santana dipset bitch livin real in trini movin colorful shit

rap beef, by cee [2008-02-28 22:32:30]

yo nigga freway recadz represetin my nigga fuck u young blow u motherfucker !! u aint shit ! deejay fuck u nigga u aint got idea bout 50 and FUCK DA DUDE DAT SAID FUCK BIGGIE U MOTHERFUCKERS freway nigga FREEWAY u aint got shit allu fakeass niggas aint shit but a fake ass nigga young blow u motherfucker !! fuck u nigga u fake ass nigga u talk shit bout these ppl and u dont want ur ass kicked ? aw na nigga u got it all wrong nigga post sum mor see what hapens nigga see what happens nigga see what happens nigga

rap beef, by KBUG [2008-02-28 22:18:37]

MAYNE YALL NEED 2 KNO DAT DA TOUGEST NIGGA IS FAT AL NIGGA STRAIT OUTTA C-TOWN, STAY FRESH ERDAY NIGGA U NO WUT IT IS

rap beef, by young blow [2008-02-24 23:05:00]

u know what fuck all of u ur all just as fake as the rappers ur talking about so fuck off bitches im UTS mortherfuckers YOUNG BLOW aka P-100 push nothing less then a 100 pounds a week i got the power WEST SAINT PAUL BITCHES i got the killers

rap beef, by [2008-02-21 21:47:23]

lil wayne has some of the sickest verses out there on some songs but he is mostly whack

rap beef, by [2008-02-19 12:30:13]

D-block all day

rap beef, by DEEJAY [2008-02-05 12:06:59]

scoowooop. out here we fuck wit weezy and dipset

rap beef, by DEEJAY [2008-02-05 12:04:42]

Fuck 50, he is wack tlkin about claimin south side dis is north side any ways. and my homie weezy could clown on all them otha rappers any ways.

rap beef, by [2008-02-03 01:35:20]

lil wayne overated nigga played out he released a couple of mix tapes now everybody thinks he is the shit and fuk 2 pac where did all that talking get him dead andAND HE AINT ALIVE B.I.G R.I.P HIP HOP DEAD ever since n.w.a came out everybody trying 2 act hard. wat hapened 2 a tribe called quest wu-tang de la soul krs-one but yall 2 young 2 remember the real hip hop

rap beef, by [2008-01-31 22:22:48]

three 6 mafia suck

rap beef, by lil print [2008-01-28 09:01:41]

i like 50 cents rymes but him and game should have never parted. cuz both ov dem r nice

rap beef, by [2008-01-10 19:52:11]

2 of the biggest beefs right now : producers timbaland and scott storcth 50 cent and cameron

rap beef, by jr36 [2008-01-10 16:00:24]

cassidy and jeezy they both fukin suk at rappin they rap bout the dumbest things. its all about three 6 mafia

rap beef, by jr36 [2008-01-10 15:52:08]

fuk-young jezzy,cassidy,jadakiss,nas,juels santana they can’t rap 4 shit - its all about three 6 mafia . m-town

rap beef, by Trey [2008-01-04 03:29:00]

Read a dictionary then all of you should kill yourselves. Obviously you guys cant read. And as for the comment below this, take caps lock off before you type. And try not to cotradict yourself.

rap beef, by Hood NIgguH [2008-01-02 20:22:03]

LOOK AT ALL U FUKN BITCHES ACTN LIKE 14 YR OLDS ,BUT ONE THING TO SAY WHO EVER FKN DISSES 2PAC OR BIGGY NIGUHH ILL KILL YO BITCH ASS WAT U GUYS GOT GO BUST OUT SUM BEATS FOO MAKE YO SELF BITCH ON THE COMPUTER FKN PULLN SUM BITCH SHYT WESTSIDEE HOOD NIGGUH

rap beef, by [2008-01-01 16:47:41]

East side rap all day there are only a couple south rappers that are good.lil wayne, T.I. and young jeezy.

rap beef, by [2008-01-01 02:05:52]

best rapper is biggie then pac. Biggie has more than 2 albums too u dumb fu*ks. papoose, cassidy,jadakiss, stack bundles is worth listening too even though he is dead

rap beef, by [2008-01-01 01:50:41]

Rap started in the east and the east is still the best. West coast is is dope too but f*** the south.

rap beef, by [2008-01-01 01:47:47]

nas and jay-z are my boys.Slim thug sucks. T.I shits on him and young jeezy is nasty.AAll other south rappers suck.

rap beef, by [2008-01-01 01:44:05]

cassidy is way better than lil wayne and so is jadakiss.Lil wayne is good but he ain’t on the level of either them.

rap beef, by Trey [2007-12-25 00:57:15]

Uh ain’t no body better than wayne ? Are you all idiots ? All of your comments had nothing to do with what you just read, if you can read. If that is all you can come up with then you have no business calling yourself a hip hop fan. Give up now ! I won’t say that all the comments are sub par, but the majority of you lack the intelligence to accuratly critique rap or hip hop (and yes there is a #$$*@% difference).

rap beef, by 2big4pac [2007-12-19 05:55:21]

what about old fart donald trump against ugly ass rosie o donald ?

rap beef, by Ev [2007-12-06 01:23:41]

all yall are dumb, aint no side better or worse, it started in NYC then it went to Cali, then back to NYC then down to the South, now if youd sit and think for a minute ud realize there all tight, yall just aint used to change, you self isolated punks 718 - NYC, 305 - MIA, 510 - Bay Area

rap beef, by Jr. J [2007-12-01 15:30:37]

all ya’ll tlkin.. no one got flow like lil wayne.. cant no one step up to his level

rap beef, by Go.Dumb. [2007-12-01 12:12:57]

50 and Jay ain’t beefin any more, cuz jay was on 50’s song I get money. And for the run, west coast has been the best for all the time. Fake ass crunk can’t touch west coast hyphy rap !!!!

rap beef, by lil’ceecee [2007-11-19 12:20:25]

man junp all that yall talkin boosie the hotties nigga in the south and the best since pac died. so all yall need to cool off. south side still got it.

rap beef, by 187 [2007-11-18 02:12:28]

eazy vs dre.. one of the biggest beefs in history.. what a gay list

FUCK 2 PAC !

rap beef, by [2007-11-15 17:10:54]

weird al owns all

rap beef, by 305 miami [2007-11-01 11:31:16]

i forgot jeezy..he da coldest "rapper"(not hip hop artist)in tha south right now and t.i. is a fake ass ni66a.slim thug is real as hell to

rap beef, by 305 miami [2007-11-01 11:29:29]

first of all,,al ya ni66as who think 50 is dope ya on some crack,second of all,2pac is still da shit,no diss to bi66ie,third of all,the game is not that dope but he would kill the shit out of 50,eminem is a straight rapper,jay z is wack ass hel,so is nas and the real music is in the south,luda is dope,hispanic rap is way betta den all ya fake ass rappers..all ya say is "ima fuck this bitch.ima do this.ima do that" and dont do shit.thats all i got to say.

rap beef, by MC Venge [2007-10-13 07:23:35]

man fuck u levas wit yo atl drity south shit !!! its all about da real rap shit !!!! the gangsta and the real shit not dat fuckin dem franchise boy shit !!! better fuckin recognize Westcoast 818 soutside shit !!!

rap beef, by Ludacrisssss [2007-09-07 03:39:02]

Fuck All yall. LUDA !!!!!!

rap beef, by ATL [2007-09-07 03:37:19]

To Shady : Fur real jeezy n TI run shit right now but fuck eminem Hes a good rapper but he dont talk about nothin real ATL

rap beef, by Shady [2007-09-06 23:44:24]

Yea or Plies most of yall probly dont even kno who plies is and fuck gucci. jeezy will kill his ass. ANy way Slim Shady is the best rapper of all time. Period. Always will be. Peace

rap beef, by bdog [2007-09-05 00:00:44]

Allright. None of yall on this list even mentioned Big Pun Or Young Jeezy. Whats up with that.

rap beef, by bcb nigga [2007-08-15 23:48:22]

im frum detroit n every body out here fuks wit wayne and gucci. i can tell yall rite now aint kno body fukn wit them(nobody).

im blooded

rap beef, by SouthSide.H-Town.TX [2007-07-25 04:59:54]

I never liked 50 cent since, well just because. I didn’t have to listen to his music. I just saw it in him that he aint even worth my recognition. As for Tupac and Biggie, on paper Tupac wins and for freestyling Biggie wins.

rap beef, by EM’ Solja [2007-06-11 02:11:47]

I Can’t believe that they forgot bout the beef between ICP and Eminem I mean ICP has more street Rep. then that fake a&$ wanna be gangtsta Benzino...

rap beef, by The Infamous [2007-05-29 16:21:06]

All you dick rydas, that think 50 is the shit, make me sick. First of all he’s a huge sellout, who wouldn’t be shit without Em. He ain’t doing any of the shit he says, and he got the nerve to start with Cam (A real nigga) Cam’s gonna crew him up and spit him out. G Unit is totally f*ckin wack, every member sucks balls, except Buck he a real nigga too, he should sign with Dipset and shit all over 50 and the rest of Goof Unit, they all talk like they are mobsta, now you tell me what mobstas ride with pigs. GGGGGoof Unit

rap beef, by MDS [2007-02-24 09:08:36]

D-Con fuck u

rap beef, by TUPAC ROMANIAN RAPID GIULESTI [2007-01-11 08:03:57]

i am from romania out here TUPAC is the best ever The Hate U Give Litlle Infants Fuck’s Everybody THUG LIFE 4 EVER 2 PAC (RIP)

rap beef, by sean [2006-10-12 15:58:18]

am a good friend of p diddy an u should all just keep it shut coz u will never know the truth about any rapper from our time. just letin u know that we do find out what u put on this page an i guess ur all to young to get it ! just remember whilst ur all chattin shit about the rap game were all getin paid an laid !

rap beef, by donkavork [2006-10-02 19:31:37]

Pac was a trill ass nigga,touched many cultures with his music and emotion.B.I.G. was still a greater rapper,Two album’s and niggas still compare him to the best.But Kool g rap is the fucking greastest of all !People fogot about him>>>>.

> rap beef, by 2TEARZ is gay [2006-09-18 15:44:17]

ha ha um yeah 2Tearz your a lil bitch dissin on a 14 year old kid. Man that is pathetic u fucking cracker ass bitch oh and u can’t sound tough on the computer because those r just words not Verbal language u fuck nut so just shut up because ur a cracker.

> rap beef, by 2TEARZ [2006-09-14 02:49:53]

D-CON SHUT YO STUPID ASS UP NIGGA AND I AM BLACK BITCH

> rap beef, by Jose [2006-09-12 17:51:00]

Don’t be sayin nigga if u guys aren’t niggers so yeah

> rap beef, by D-Con [2006-09-12 16:44:46]

Fuck u all u guys ain’t black and neither am I so don’t be saying nigga its nigger so fuck u all that say both because u guys can’t play or act u fucking posers, oh and Pac is hella better then biggie because he keeps his shit real even after hes dead but Biggie says he gets pussy all the time and no bitch is gonna fuck a guy that smells like ass all the time because hes like 400 pounds.I am 14 years old

> rap beef, by 2TEARZ [2006-09-06 02:15:46]

49 CENTS U STUPID BITCH 50 IS A SNITCH AND SCARED TO WALK THE STREETS WITH OUT THE COPS AND FUCK U KNOW BOUT RAP ANYWAYZ

> rap beef, by 2TEARZ [2006-09-06 02:12:57]

RUSTY U DUMB FUCKEN BITCH IF U EVER SAY ANYTHING AS FUCKEN DUM AS THAT I FIND WERE U LIVE AND BEAT THE FUCKEN SHIT OUT OF O YA FUCK THAT STUPID DIRTY SOUTH RETARED ASS SNAP MUSIC SHIT THE DUMBS MUSIC EVER IT AIN’T EVEN MUSIC GODDAM U STUPID BITCH FUCK THE "DIRTY SOUTH" U STUPID BITCH 2PAC BIGGIE THA BEST EVER BITCH FUCK THAT FAKE NIGGA PIMP C AND BUN B FUCK THE SOUTH NIGGA WESTSIDE U DUMB BITCH SUCK MY DICK NIGGA THIS IS COMPTON BITCH FUCK U PAC IZ THA BEST EVER MUTHA FUCKA FUCK THE SOUTH BITCH AND FUCK RUSTY 242 OR WHATEVA THE FUCK YO DUMBASS NAME BITCH

> rap beef, by 2TEARZ [2006-09-06 02:07:18]

rook i feel u 2PAC THE BEST BACK THEN THE BEST NOW AND THE BEST EVER TO GRACE THA MICRO PHONE FOR REALZ NO DISRESPECT TO BIG AT ALL YO BUT DAMN 2PAC LEGACY HE MIGHT BE GONE LIKE HIS BODY BUT HIS SPIRIT IS HERE AND HIS MUSIC 4 LIFE

> rap beef, by Rook [2006-09-01 09:14:34]

2pac kills biggie, son ! No question ! Yeah, 2pac made 13 albums and biggie made 2. So what ? Doesn’t that prove that 2pac is better ? That he could make 13 good albums and biggie could only make 2 ? Come on now. Biggie is decent, but 2pac is the best. Even people in New York know that.

> rap beef mike from the dirty south, by mike [2006-08-26 21:20:27]

u all can say wat u want, but biggie smallz and tupac r the best artists in the rap game of all time, it doesnt matter how many records r sold, or any of dat shit, they are still noticed, and have the best lyrics. fuck 50, and g-unit, G-G-G-G-G-G UNot bitches. thats how we do, eminem rules, mosh fo life, canibus, stfu yung gun, ll cool j cut u up, and screw ja rule, hes a big pussy.

> rap beef, by . [2006-08-22 17:02:49]

Gangster - a member of an organized gang of criminals. e.g. The Mafia.

No rapper mentioned on this page is a ’ gangster ’.

And before someone says ’ gangsta ’, it’s not even a REAL word. Pick up a dictionary.

Peace out illiterates.

> rap beef, by K-82 [2006-07-30 18:42:14]

Hurricane GAME,D Block, 4 life fuck gunot 50 is a snitch banks is a bitch and gayo aint never gonna be rich so fuck gunot and fuck the pussys that think they hot GAME gonna crush em even without dre gunot got caught up in the Hurricane and no1 wants 2 see the aftermath

> rap beef, by rusty294 [2006-07-30 02:30:02]

Man fuck biggie and Pac. No one has shit on Pimp C or Bun B, The Underground Kings. Tha Dirty South has the illest shit there is. Except for Mike Jones. That full needs to be shot. And as for 50 he spits a whole lot of shit he knows nothin about. He’s faker than Ja Rule is and he’s a little bitch too.So Fuck G unit.

fuk 50, by 303_rida [2006-07-28 10:12:54]

fk 50 and all g-unit all fake ass bull ahit and if ur down wit dem fuk u 2 it aint no thang the only tru nigga is GAME that says it how it is he puts it down disin on any motha fuka who wants beef.50 is a chimpmunk on steroids yayo is already about fukin 40 lloyd banks was involved in a gay porn. fuk g-unit its all bout game ggggggggg-unot ha ha ha fuk yall

> rap beef, by 49 CENTS ON THE FLOOR [2006-07-21 22:13:05]

MY COMMENT IS REGARDING TO THE SECOND ONE FROM THE BOTTOM. YOU GOTTA THE DUMBEST BITCH ALIVE, OF COURSE THEY’VE SOLD MORE RECORDS THEN 50 CENT. THEY’VE BEEN OUT LONGER THAN HE HAS. ALL I KNOW IS THAT 50 IS THE BEST RAPPER "ALIVE" RIGHT NOW. ANYHING THAT HAS 50 CENT WRITTEN ON IT IS GANA SELL LIKE CRAZY.

B.I.G, by xtrim [2006-07-15 17:53:29]

now tupac is the highest selling artist.........good for him at number 1 with up to 13 albums u dumasses forget something BIGGIE had only 2 albums when he was alive and 2 after death........dear mama from tupac is the best track west coast has got after most of them are gangsta’s wannabe’s they aint spray shit fucking studio gangtas baby wanksta.......look at the east especially new york we have nas,jay-z,Big these nigga’s drop hustlers athem how many hustlers shit did we get from pac......pac is so empty because he squeezed all his lyrics into dear mama after that he just started calling names.....u also want to talk about sells,who has the ability to sell 18million copy with one album ........definetly not pac

> rap beef, by E.J.P. [2006-07-10 21:24:20]

ok ok ok now do any of u have any real reason 2 be sayin they suck ? now i dont like all of them but seriously u think they suck so bad go out there and show em how its done ? come on u know wat sucks dont u ? go try and rap see how far u get see if u can sell like anyone mentioned here doubt it u say "fuck 50 he sucks" ok then u go out there and show wat u got bet u dont get no where but just keep typin shit on the lil forum and shit and act like u know exactly wat ur talkin bout....

> rap beef, by TheHNIC [2006-07-08 21:32:02]

ay, fuck Curtis bitch ass Jackson, he rap bout the same thing in every fucking song, he only has two things to talk about : 1. my 9, pump shotty, i got shot, 12 clips, sniper, slangin caine, stay strapped, hustle hustle hustle... blah fuckin blah ! 2. lick your pussy, look at your hips, love love love, kiss you, hoes i’m gon’ fuck ya... blah fuckin blah again. This bitch raps about the same things in EVERY FUCKIN SONG !!!!!!! Listen to this bitch’s hooks too. HE FUCKIN SINGS WITH A HOLE IN HIS FUCKIN JAW !!! he sounds like shit ! he should get ja to sing one of his hooks... at least he sounds better than Curtis bitch snitch Jackson. FUCK HIS HOOKS !! what kind of a fuckin gangsta sings !?! riddle me that !!!... any so called "gangsta" who sings is a fuckin HOMO ass nigga. and what’s this talk bout 50 helping Game on his whole album. FUCK DAT !! i hear him on 3 songs... hmmmmm real help he is... HE SINGS A FUCKIN HOOK !!! what a bitch !... and snitchin’ to the POlice about the shooting ! can i get an amen ! FUCK 50 ! Ghost Unit is the best diss album out to this date !! G-UNOT YOU BITCH ASS NIGGAZ !!! gunit IS FAKE !!! fuck jamaica queens, fuck 50, fuck yayo (who sucked 50 off to get into gunit), fuck BUCK (that deer lookin mutha fucka), but Banks is the only one in gunit worth listening to. GGGGGGGG-uNOOOOOOOOOOOT !!!!!!!

50 Cent and The Game, by GUNIT CRIPS [2006-05-30 17:02:32]

First of all i watched 50’s movie and then i wathced the games documentary the game aint got nothing on 50. 50 was a hustler back in his day and more shit then anyone has ever gone through. how is the game going to live with crips then go back to his mommas house and join his brother as a blood ?? how you going to let a blood go into crip territory with f***ing cameras and shit and gave duces to him telling him wassup and stuff.Thats a NNNNOO !! game just needs to give up this GUNOT crap cuz it is wack as s**it. 50 is just way better is music and look he got a game out and a movie. So now you got game making a movie Waist Deep.Gotta give the music to the boss game you still under aftermath and gunit. so for all you haters go a problem talk to me on my myspace.. GGGGGGGGGGGGUNIT !!!!!!

South Side, by Zamo [2006-05-08 07:26:00]

I am from South Africa this tha muthuphuckin real g’s side if ya know wot i mean,fuck who said biggie woz beta than 2pac(RIP).Fuck url all of url,2pac(RIP) is da greatest ever and da next real muthaphuckin G is Eazy E(RIP). 50 Cent is rocking every1 at da moment including Ja Rule and all them bitch ass studio gangstaz. I know bcoz here in South Africa da 3 biggest and most heard of rappers are 2pac(RIP),Eazy E(RIP) and 50 cent.U got sumtin 2say cum over and smoke sum DURBAN POIZON n spill it out muthaphuckers. U dig ???

> rap beef, by corn2bread369 [2006-04-28 21:42:15]

Suge Night is a mutha fuckin ass hole and likes it up tha ass hole. 2pac an biggie didnt hav beef tha publicity had it. diddy is a bitch wit ja rule but thanx for stabbin 50

> rap beef, by rapin white boy [2006-04-28 21:34:34]

Jay-Z vs Nas

> rap beef, by PurpleHaze [2006-04-08 15:31:43]

I just want to know why it seems like i am the only one in the world notice the hardest battle thats been going on for the last 4 or 5 years between Scarface and Yukmouth. If yall like good beef music then look into that battle, you will thank me later.

> rap beef, by mr.hogz [2006-03-06 23:07:48]

why are you fighting about who’s on top ? you guyz ain’t real

50 cent has a new album coming out and apparently, although it will feature all new Dre beats one thing that won ?t be new is the subject matter. If his new single entitled ?Piggybank ? from the new album "The Massacre" is any indication of what we have to look forward to it will be more of the same. Apparently on this particular track ?Piggybank ? he is just going off on everybody from Ja-Rule, Nas, Shyne, Fat Joe to his own label mate Jadakiss. The editors of XXL Magazine are calling him a ?promotional genius ? because it ?s his constant beef with everyone else on the planet that seems to fuel interest in his career. Personally I don ?t understand how on one hand you can be practically rank with machismo and then on the other hand so damn sensitive. How do these guys let five to ten years in prison just roll off their back but can’t seem to let an off hand remark about their city slide ? I am not talking about just 50 Cent in particular, but rappers in general when I say that rappers seem to genuinely get their feelings hurt like everyday in one way or another. And if that wasn ?t true, then why all the beef ? Tupac didn ?t invent beef between rappers by any means. It has long been used as a tool to promote record sells between artists, but Tupac sure did make a nice little fortune putting out song after song lyrically lambasting all of his perceived ?enemies ?. But the question is what exactly did it take to be an enemy ? The answer is, not much. Outside of Biggie, whom he swore up and down got him robbed, shot and left for dead Tupac went after anyone that didn ?t go on record as supporting every syllable that came out of his mouth. It may have started out with Biggie but by the time Tupac was killed in Las Vegas there were entire web sites created to keep track of his enemies and why he didn ?t like so-n-so or such-n-such. Personally, I think after Tupac showed that he could make a fortune making diss songs, some rappers have gotten into the habit of using the diss song as the primary promotional tool for not only an album but their entire careers. All I am saying if you are going to beef with someone at least let it be over something that can actually be considered an insult. Some of these rappers seem to take things as an ?insult ? that wouldn ?t even show up on normal people ?s radars. It ?s sensitivity that borderlines on the paranoid. Evidently in this new song ?Piggybank ? 50 Cent went after Fat Joe and his own label mate Jadakiss because his feelings were genuinely hurt that they did a song with his well known enemy Ja-Rule. I am here thinking, why would a grown man give a damn about who made a song with who ? That ?s a little too "something" if you ask me. I can ?t put my finger on it but let ?s just say people that emotionally delicate make me nervous. I guess because he is always talking about who he is going to beat up, knife or shoot if you ?fuck with him ? we are supposed to just look past the fact that even being upset about something like that is pretty suspect. But its not just 50 that is this sensitive by a long shot. I have heard of rappers going at it with each other because they passed each other in a hallway and a head nod wasn ?t returned. R. Kelly and Jay-Z reportedly fell out over who was getting the most cheers at concerts. I need to reexamine this stereotype that only women are catty like this because obviously its not just the girls nowadays that get catty over stuff like who is talking to who, who ignored who and who is wearing what. I have heard lyrics in songs that has caused all kinds of friction between artists where there would have been no way I would have walked away thinking that particular lyric was directed at anyone in particular. But that is the point. Nowadays an offensive lyric doesn ?t have to be directed at anyone in particular. All you have to do is toss it out there and leave it up to them to find a way to take it personally. And believe me they will. Someone always does. It ?s almost like the rap world is purgatory for high school drop outs where no one ever grows up to discover that there are more important things in life than rims. Personally I think it would be a living hell where I am stuck in a world where you are only as cool as the car you drive, the friends you hang out with and the party you were seen at but with none of the homework you wouldn ?t do anyway. I know that beef sells records, and I hope to God that most of this is just manufactured to cause a buzz, because if it isn ?t, if these guys are really this sensitive then there is a lot of machismo masking a whole lot of femininity in the rap world. But let ?s just be honest here, one of the main reasons there is so much beef in the rap world is the fact that loyalty and friendship is bought. You don ?t have friends in the rap world you have alliances. And you know how Ambrose Bierce defined alliances, ??the union of two thieves who have their hands so deeply inserted in each other’s pockets that they cannot separately plunder a third. ? Fitting isn ?t it ? Record companies are like the new gang affiliations now. The say ?be careful who you pick as your friends because you inherit their enemies ? this seems to be no truer than in the rap world. The really disingenuous thing about all of this is that some of these acts try to get signed on several of these labels before actually cutting a deal. Yet once they find a home at a particular label the first thing they do is go out and start lyrically cutting up all of the talent on all of the other labels to create a buzz for themselves. The irony is that he was more than likely trying to sign with several of these record labels before he finally got a deal. So any one of these people he is dissing now could have just as easily been his new best friends had their record label signed him. Therefore his ?friendship ? and all of that ?I ?d die for this shit ? talk is all bullshit. He is only as good as the last check he cashes. It is shameless when you think about it. You go out on stage and perform these songs night after night about how down you are with whomever you are employed by, but you could have just as easily been dissing them too had you been signed by someone else. So I guess when you mix a bunch of high school drop outs whose feelings seem to get bruised if you forget to call them on their birthday with disingenuous loyalties it makes for an extremely hostile environment and a proven formula or creating millionaires.

same difference Who linked to my rap articles ? How has ?before you judge a man, try to walk in his shoes ? become so maligned that people think that I can ?t make a statement coming out against rape, murder, assault, because of some imaginary pre-requisite that requires me to walk in the perpetrators shoes first ?

ODB is Dead. Don’t Blame Me. I comment on the news. His trifling ass was in the news, so I commented.

Republicans plan to motivate their base to the polls by suggesting that if the democrats take over the house in 2006, Bush will be impeached for sure. Will this motivate more republicans or democrats to get out to the polls ? republicans more democrats more


Source : Associated Press, XXL

> rap beef, by he’s_alive96 [2006-02-24 23:19:51]

is this even a real battle ? i mean seriously. pac is by far the better rapper. his shit is real and hardcore. if you like bitch songs, listen to biggie. if you keep it real and thuggin, listen to pac. "grab ya dicks.... rub your tits" that shit is lame. biggie made bitch songs. and look who he rolled with, puff daddy. gimme a break. puff is the biggest bitch in the game today. biggie and puff are soft. pac is real and gangsta.

> rap beef, by mosdef [2006-02-24 14:26:35]

yo that piont is tupac and biggie had beef nas and jayz had beef 50 and emeniem and all them others are jus losers who want props

> rap beef, by WHATYALLKNOW [2006-02-14 00:57:52]

SO I GUESS SELLS IS WHAT MAKES YOU A GOOD RAPPER. MARIAH CAREY HAS SOLD MORE THAN MJ BLIGE, SO SHES THE GREATEST EVER TO SING R AND B. IF YOU ARE GOING TO SAY SOMETHING DUMB AND UNFOUNDED THEN SHUT THE FUCK UP. BIGGIE IS SERIOUS PAC IS LAME. PERIOD. SALES DO NOT MEAN SHIT EXCEPT YOU CAN PAY YOUR BILLS DUMBASS.

> rap beef, by fox [2006-02-04 07:07:16]

i like tupac but the fact is, his flo’s r average n he’s only powerful when his content is correct n since dear mama sadly content has been lackin. Bigge on the other hand even at his worst, [some of his content is questionable], his flows n tones r superp everchangin n incredible... "niggaz say im pussy, i dare ya to stick u dick in this, if i was pussy i’d b filled wit syphylis, herpes ghonnarhea, chlamydia gettin rid of ya" cmon man it gets no better

> rap beef, by fox [2006-02-04 06:54:42]

when cats start statin financial facts u know they dont av a clue bout rap. WHO CARES how many units u push when u consider how many people r sheep, n how many pop tunes get labelled as rap/hip hop. GET REAL ! Sales r about advertising campaigns n budgets, pretty artwork n appealin videos, distribution networks n hype, GREAT RAP IS ABOUT JUST THAT, GREAT RAPPIN, GREAT FLOWS, ORIGINALITY, PUSHIN BOUNDARIES, GREAT CONTENT anythin else is inconsequential bullshit ! KEEP IT REAL is not just a catchphrase, hip hop is born from the ghetto where real is real painful n is the expression of a need to escape oppression 4 all, not just a few cats "escapin" n aspiring to be oppressors.

> rap beef, by newyork [2006-02-02 14:36:38]

fuck all yall and fuck you for saying fuck biggie you hoe, i could fuck you up in real life im daring you get your ass over to new york

> rap beef, by Joshua allen JOnes [2006-01-28 19:46:16]

the reason they arent legends is because they suck and how long have they been round forever 50cent been round like three years and has sold millions that show u watched on mtv bout record says was before 50cents massacre and get rich or die tryin soundtrack so know what u talkin bout ja had like what six records and they all got him yellin murddddda and singin its they same thing over and over like a mike jones record so just lurn before u talk

> rap beef, by jeanette frm cali [2006-01-26 05:07:33]

fuck biggie hes wak and didnt nearly sell as many as tupac...

real actaul facts :

tupac was the highest seling rapper of all time...

eminem is the secound highest

snoop dogg is the third highest..

dre is the fourth

....blah blah blah the list goes on but all i know is 50 came in 14 th place ja rule beeat his ass in 9th place bitch ass biggie smalls cam in as 13th place NOT EVEN IN THE TOP TEN MISSY ELLIOT BEAT HIS ASS !!

so why arent ja rule and missy being alled legends huh...but biggie is,... ??

you know why becuase the east coast got ass hurt because tupac was "soposibly hating on them"

and deathrow sold more so thet called him the king....tupaac is the king hes the highest selling of all time and biggie was out longer !

whos the king here...the fatboy that takes a picture with a crown and ranks in at number 13 or

the thug that doesnt label himself as the best or takes pictures with crowns... not to mention ranked number one highest selling rapper of all time.....

i was watching a documentary on africa and all the little boys and gurls said that tupac was there favorite ..with no way to listen to music they sleep on a puddle floor........think about before you chose sides

> rap beef, by [2006-01-22 02:02:20]

fuck Ja Rule

More Stuff